El Podcast

E42: Procreate or Perish: Why Population Collapse Is the Real Crisis - w/ Dr. Paul Morland

Episode Summary

UK demographer Dr. Paul Morland explains why population collapse—not overpopulation—is the real crisis, with global aging, falling fertility, and shrinking workforces threatening economic and societal stability.

Episode Notes

Demographer Dr. Paul Morland joins El Podcast to explore why population collapse—not overpopulation—is the defining crisis of the 21st century.

Guest Bio: Dr. Paul Morland is one of the UK’s leading demographers and the author of several books including Tomorrow’s People: The Future of Humanity in Ten Numbers. A senior associate at the think tank Civitas, Morland is known for his deep analysis of demographic trends, their impact on economics, geopolitics, and culture, and his bold advocacy for pro-natalist policy solutions.

Topics Discussed:

• Why overpopulation fears are outdated and misguided
• Demographic collapse in East Asia, Southern Europe, and beyond
• The economic and social consequences of aging societies
• Cultural, religious, and ideological roots of fertility decline
• Why immigration isn’t a sustainable solution
• What the U.S., UK, China, and Africa face demographically
• Morland’s forthcoming book Procreate or Perish

Three Best Quotes:

• “If societies like the Italians are not interested in reproducing themselves, there will be no Italy as we’ve understood it—and no Italians—in 300 years.”
• “Ultimately, if you want fewer people without coercion, the price is demographic collapse—economically, socially, and spiritually.”
• “You can’t build a future society on childlessness. That’s not a philosophy—it’s an ending.”